Statues of Than-way-za-ni-ya 4 Htarna at Azusa Monastery
Myittha
This topic on the four statues for repentance, depicting events in Buddha’s life, appeared on the Click2Myanmar and Mandalaygazette previous websites. They also had a large number of hits. The postings are presented below:
(U Ayethaka later withdrew his flyer and changed the title to “E”).
Essentially, people are asking why the monk was sending out flyers inviting donations again for these same statues, when the donations for them had been received in full already.
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Posted on: 2007/8/15 18:24
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Posted on: 2007/9/21 21:09
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I’m so happy to see all the Buddha statues are here in Azusa Temple.
What I don’t understand is:
Normally, the donations are collected first and bring the Buddha statues later after the needed expenses are collected to have fully covered for the cost, shipping and bringing the statues in. It seems like some one already paid and donated for these statues to be here in Azusa Temple. If it is already donated by someone, it should not be ask for donation again for the same Buddha statues. It should say who and who are donated already for the Buddha statues. The temple is really appreciated for this donation and we still need some more donors for cement work and some others expenses to complete the work. It needs to say it clearly and honestly what it is for. So, we know what we are donating for.
I really would like to know how the Buddha statues got here and who bought and donated these or the board paid all these in advance to be here for us to see, participate and give donations to become the original donors of these Buddha statues. If the board is doing these in advance for us and for the community to be the original donors of these Buddha statues, we really appreciate all their thoughtfulness and hard work they did for us and for the community.
P.S – In the past, it has happened similar situation and the temple got some bad news about it and I don’t want the bad image comes back again for the temple.
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Hi dmoran555,
Why don’t you go to Azusa Temple and ask the Sayardaw if you really want to know? They are not going to post it here for your answer.
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Aung2
Thanks for the info. You seem to know that “THEY” (Azusa Temple’s Board directors) are not going to post the requested reply on Click2Myanmar. How do you know that? Are you one of the directors? Or, are you a middleman or a go-between?
If you are just a go-between, thanks for the taking the trouble to find it out and to let other people know. You do not like donors or C2M readers being held in suspense for quite some time. We share the same feeling! What a let down!!! Awful!!!
If you are one of the directors, we thank you also for waking up to your duties and taking responsibilities. You now realize that you have a duty to the Donors, the Community, and C2M readers. Even though it’s late, this is a good sign, a start. At least, one responsible director has now responded.
Though you have responded either as a go-between or as a director; if we think carefully, the info itself is NOT REALLY MUCH OF A MESSAGE at all. It conveys no SUBSTANCE. A “Thingyan Ah Myauk” (cannon)! Just sound & fury. It still ignores the questions raised. It’s only saying that “They” won’t post the answer on C2M.” It just says “Go here, go there”. The only consolation is that you are kind and responsible enough to say, in effect “Don’t wait for an answer here on C2M.” C2M readers will all get gray hairs waiting!!!
The posting says “Go to the temple and ask the Sayadaw if you really want to know”. Somebody is side stepping the questions. He is just giving others the “run around”. It’s just another step out of many in a “road map” (obstacle) similar to Gen Than Shwe’s long road map to democracy. How clever!!!
Come to think of it, I have read other Azusa Temple postings. It seems like genius “Thambyang” is again behind this hare-brained & devious “Go to the Temple and ask the Sayardaw” game. In fact, I have read Thambyang’s C2M posting using this term “road map” in his rambling lecture on “Thugs” in Buddhism, whatever that is.
It sounds more like he borrowed these “smart” delaying tactics from Sayagyi Than Shwe. Probably, he got this practice of “Thuggery” as a bonus as well from his Burma trip.
Honestly, we’ve never heard of “Thugs” in Buddhism before. We sounded rather stupid. Probably, Thambyang is Than Shwe’s twin brother eager to bring Thuggery to Buddhism and ordering others to get out of his “Buddhism”. What a shame and a disgrace to Buddhism, especially if he is a director over in Azusa!
Now, I am really worried. Would he move the Azusa Temple to Naypyidaw!!! In a jungle atmosphere, he might want to freely practice his own brand of Buddhism combined with pure Thuggery meditation. Notice that he was already fighting with words like “Temple” and “Monastery”, though world renowned authors & scholars’ of internet Buddhist texts disagreed with him entirely.
But I digress. The high and mighty sounding “Go to the Temple and ask the Sayardaw” turns out to be just a “paper tiger” after all. It’s just a delaying gimmick and a refusal to be upfront with the facts. It’s just a refusal to act responsibly and honestly with the Donors and the Community. Why post on C2M and then refuse to answer C2M questions on C2M? I don’t understand, do you?
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Myittha
June 20, 2010 at 9:42 pm
dmoran555
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It is not that important to get the answer for who paid and donated these Buddha statues and how they got here in Azusa Temple.
I just want the community to be aware, to be able to see, understand the situation, using common sense, donate to the real needs and support the right way to our temple. I’m not trying to stop anyone for donating to the temple. Don’t just blindly give the hardship saving money away and spoil the people who are getting easy money.
It is easy to give away and donate. But it is hard for us to earn and save money to have it extra for donations. We have to work 8 hours a day, 5 days a week, pay all our bills, take care our family, try to save some money for our needs, for unseen emergency needs, for donations and for our retirement and so on.
It is hard life here in U.S. and money does not come easy. I want the community to think about getting good karma when donating for the real needs and for our community needs. Don’t just blindly give the hardship saving money away and spoil the people who are getting easy money and make them become Lawba person and Mawha person.
Again, I’m not trying to stop anyone for giving the donations. Just to let everyone know donate to the real needs, to help and support the right way only.
Monks need to remember it all the times beside the WeNee that they are living their life on our hardship savings support and they should not forget how hard we have to work, earn and save to get the donations.
Some people don’t even keep for themselves and donate it all for the good karma and monks should not take advantage from those people.
Monks should understand how hard for us to get this donations and in return they should appreciate with Metta, SayTaNar, GaYuNar, KoGinSar and treat all donors equally, honestly and help out the community back with loving kindness to everyone.
Always keep in mind that they also have WeNee to follow. Practice the meditation, so they can preach/teach their own experience and keep in touch with Dharma books either in English or Burmese instead of watching VCD, DVD, cable TV and busy with their internet, digital camera and video recording.
Forgive and forget what had happen in the past. Complete change and treat all donors and supporters the same and welcome everyone to the Azusa Temple with a warm kind heart, a smile and nothing holding in the mind. All the current board members should do the same and put all the past behind, forgive and forget to make a better image for Azusa Temple.
Community is watching you all and you need to be more careful on everything what you do for the Azusa Temple.
Hopefully, the community understands and sees correctly about my blindly donations. Use common sense and think first where you see asking for any donations before you donate to get the good karma.
Donating, helping and supporting are good things that WE MUST DO. But, we need to do it wisely and don’t over do it to spoil the others to become Lawba person and Mawha person.
These are my thinking and suggestions. If no one agreed to it, let it be.
Myittha
June 20, 2010 at 9:44 pm
Myittha
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Phopyoncho
True! I do understand. It’s another delay. Probably, they have brought BUREAUCRACY & red tape to Azusa Temple.
Wake up!!! We are in America. Making people go and ask the Sayardaw does not sound right or fair or efficient. Aren’t they are the ones asking for donations? They should be eager to answer questions and not be “han gyi pan gyi” (putting on airs). What do you think?
One more thing, call Azusa Temple? Most times, no one is answering the Temple’s phone. Lin Htoo would like to you to think otherwise. “Just make a SIMPLE call to the Temple” sounds so easy but it’s rather HOLLOW in practice.
Another thing, didn’t the Chairman first post the C2M solicitation? He was ABLE to post on C2M with ease. The chairman or a director should be COURTEOUS & RESPONSIBLE enough to answer C2M members’ questions with ease? Why avoid them?
I guess there is a reason for their unwillingness to answer questions and it’s not good. It seems that the Chairman who posted the C2M solicitation has found it uncomfortable to do so or has gone into meditation & retreat. Why? It appears that this solicitation AGAIN contains misrepresentations. It’s like the prior April 18, 2007 flyer. The April flyer solicited for “urgent” & “inflated” donations with many “untruths”.
Yes, the current Than Way Zaniya statues C2M solicitation should ask for donations from C2M viewers. No, it should NOT be for STATUES. Yes, this time, it should be for their FOUNDATIONS. It’s wrong to ask for donations multiple times for the same OLD STATUES. The statues have all been DONATED FOR ALREADY by other prior donors. There shouldn’t be “REPETITIVE” donors for the same statues without being upfront with ALL donors. Try selling the same car to two or more buyers. People know right away that you are trying to defraud them.
Than Way Zaniya statues’ PURPOSE is to remind people to reflect on their imperfections and their impermanence. It’s for them to have remorse, to control greed, anger, and misdeeds; and to do good deeds while living in an impermanent world. It is for people to own up & to change for the better.
Likewise, regarding this C2M solicitation, the Chairman and directors should all have “than way ga” (remorse) and change for the better. They should be willing to own up and change their ways and not continue to mislead the Donors, C2M readers, and the community again & again.
Be honest. Don’t just avoid the issues and go into hiding. Face them. If the Chairman and directors are unwilling to do so, why keep holding on to their religious positions? Let some honest people handle it. It’s good for them and the community and everybody. Don’t you think?
Myittha
June 20, 2010 at 9:46 pm
Phopyoncho
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I got a few gray hairs waiting for Azusa Temple Chairman and board’s reply. It was about the 4 noble statues and donations. Luckily, “Aung2” came to the rescue with his message. Otherwise, I would have gotten some more gray hairs waiting some more.
I blamed myself for being such a dumb person to wait for an Azusa Temple’s reply. I didn’t know that it would turn out this way. I had regards for all monks and Temple trustees. I feel people doing religious works are all noble, courteous, and kind. I didn’t think that Azusa people would treat us as shabbily as they did.
Now, I saw many new Azusa flyers being posted on C2M again. My hopes went up again. I thought probably this time the monk would include a word or two on the statues donations. Are the donations for the statues or just for the foundations? It’s a simple request. No such mention in these many new flyers, either. My hopes came crashing down. Suddenly, I noticed some NEW gray hairs! I don’t blame anyone. It’s my fault again. I still expect people to be nice and courteous to others. How wrong can I be? You can say I never learn.
I am rather dumb. I still cannot understand. You ask people for statues donations. Then you won’t clarify whether it’s really for statues or just for foundations. What a vast difference!!! Sad to say, Myittha’s guess is probably true. The monk and board are just asking MULTIPLE TIMES for the VERY SAME old statues. It’s a “myauk pya san thaung”, show the monkey dance and ask for money. Very bad!!!
First, I got angry and sad. I realize that some people doing religious work are misleading the donors and daryakas lay people and community. They did it repeatedly without a qualm (fear).
Later on, I think it’s rather laughable. Why? It’s the fashion nowadays. We might be the ones out of fashion really. Probably, they got into the habit of copying from General “Bulldog” Than Shwe. It’s strikingly similar! Take a look at the following comedy. Enjoy!!!
The comedy play goes like this:
THAN SHWE (TS) & GENERALS: “People can shout from the rooftops for democracy. We don’t care! Not even a “pyar”(cent)!”
AZUSA MONK & BOARD: “Donors can ask questions on the statues or about Nibban Zey moneys. We, too, don’t care a hoot!”
TS & STAFF: “We have big brothers Russia, China, India, and Thailand and we do have big guns. Watch out! we might even make nuclear bombs”
AZUSA MONK & BOARD: “We have Thagyamin, the king of Nats, and his “Warazein” lightning weapon to support us”. Brush up your mythology, my friends. Thagyamin had to even come down from his throne and serve the monks!!! Otherwise, his throne will get red hot!!! He will get “bhin puu” hot buttocks (a hot seat).
“Not only that, we can hit the donors with “Nga yae gyi mare” (hell) weapon. See how they have to quickly shut up. It works every time. We say this weapon is even far more powerful than Than Shwe’s artillery! And very inexpensive too. Just some hot air will do.”
TS & STAFF: “We have master soothsayers and fortune tellers and numerology experts to guide us”.
AZUSA MONK & BOARD: “We, too, have a fortune teller and a numerologist on call, 24/7, on our board. We really really depend on them. Forget about Lord Buddha’s Vinaya WeeNee”.
After this comedy, I even suspect some of my gray hairs will turn black again!!! Imagine the power of laughter. A laugh a day keeps the doctor away!
Myittha
June 21, 2010 at 3:54 am
dmoran555
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Here are a few things that I would like to let everyone know what I see is not right on the Oct 26th 2007 invitation news letter from Azusa Temple. Click below link to see the letter.
http://www.click2myanmar.com/C2M/modules/newbbex/viewtopic.php?topic_id=1017&forum=6&post_id=2430#forumpost2430 (old)
I don’t know why the people running the organization keep using Brahma Vihara Kyaung instead of Thondrarama Bramavihara Kyaung on the 2nd paragraph of the news letter. They need to be proud to call and say the correct name of our Azusa Temple.
Just saying Brahma Vihara Kyaung does not look right, make public to misunderstand and, keep showing and sending the message that the board members and the people running the organization still don’t like to use the Thondrarama which referring to the original sayardaw U Thondra.
I know they will use Azusa Monastery or Azusa Kyaung only in the future letter instead of Thondrarama Bramavihara Kyaung.
Another one that I don’t understand is, $144 per sq ft is for the new building that they will build for a new Theim (odrf) area or the new Dhamma hall that is already built and they are asking for donation again for the area that is newly assigned to be Theim Maye (odrf a`r) for $144 per sq ft. It needs to say it clearly and honestly for all the donors and supporters.
The news letter should include any planning for new building and any upgrades that is going to be built for the Azusa Temple. The community does not know what is going on and all we see is asking for donations without a clear explanation. It makes us to misunderstand each other.
Again, the community is watching the people running the organization and they need to be extra careful what they do for the Azusa Temple. Please don’t make the Azusa Temple to get the bad image and mislead the community.
The community would like to trust, respect and support the Azusa Temple. But we need to see the changes, the forgiveness, have metta to all donors/supporters and running the organization correctly under the Wenee, the law and the guide lines.
These are my thinking and suggestions. If no one agreed to it, let it be.
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Posted on: 2007/10/23 19:33
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Are these monks supporting FREE BURMA?
or
They just doing business? Making money here in LA?
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Below is kyawhtin1 Posted on: 2007/9/28 16:10 in Multi Faiths Candlelight Vigil in Monterey Park on Sep. 30 forum. He is referring to the monk at Azusa Temple.
To read all the messages click the link below.
http://www.click2myanmar.com/C2M/modules/newbbex/viewtopic.php?topic_id=979&forum=12
The partial posted message was
“Shame on SOME of our U S monks!!! I remember a monk who kept on emphasizing “Myanmar monks” & “Myanmar kyaung”. He puts this up like a scarecrow (a dummy to scare birds away)to scare other people. Everybody knows already that it’s “Myanmar monks” & “Myanmar kyaung”. He wildly & baselessly made an accusation that someone will try to change the kyaung to Mahayana. He desperately wanted the support of Myanmar people. There is no real need to divide and rule on the various people from Myanmar. We are in the same boat.
He had some donors enlarge his monastery back home. Rumors alleged that he got very upset for not getting a grand “title” & that he suspected people had snitched on him to the Military Govt. What a joke!!!
The point is: He had asked for Myanmar community’s help or support in various not too nice ways but will he really be helping our other Myanmar monks and people in return?
Kyaemon
June 21, 2010 at 4:28 am
When the conditions are milder, maybe the solutions are milder. Just bear with the selfish monks. The conditions have grown quite SEVERE!!! Bloodied monks. Monasteries raided at night etc.
It’s now time to ask for more sacrifices from even these few monks. They have taught Love & Compassion. To them: I say, “Please practice love and compassion for Myanmar brother monks & people, or are you not a PROUD “Myanmar” monk? They have taught “Anatta” (Impermanence). To them, I say “Please let go of your property in Myanmar to help your brethren. Which is more important? Can you take it with you to your next life?….
Forget about visits to Myanmar now. No good communication or travel. They might even hit you and put you in jail. At least, they will watch you “Bi Latt pyan”. Very uncomfortable, indeed!!!…
Like what Look4truth has said, you will get whatever support back, later on. People look up to Monks helping Monks. Why not you? Remember you will be looked down on (despised), for which you will never recover again!!!….”
Myittha
June 21, 2010 at 7:12 pm
Thanks.
Phopyoncho
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I understand what Myittha is saying. We need to learn from these noble and selfless Sayadaws like Ven New York Masoeyein Sayadaw and Ven Penang Sayadaw. They have many years of experience.
See “Photos of Azusa Kyaung Nibban Zay” link below:
http://www.click2myanmar.com/C2M/modules/newbbex/viewtopic.php?topic_id=949&forum=6&viewmode=flat&order=ASC&start=10 (old)
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Myittha’s say noble and selfless Sayadaws Ven Masoeyein Sayadaw and Ven Penang Sayadaw. I like it. Both from Mandalay Masoeyein monastery. Both 80 years.
Azusa better learn from respectful monks. Treat Zey thare people properly. Show how money gone like respectful Sayadaws.
Myittha
June 21, 2010 at 7:16 pm
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Would you say it’s HONORABLE to ask for donations MULTIPLE times for the SAME statues already donated for? What do you think? I don’t think it’s RIGHT.
Myittha said you couldn’t sell the SAME CAR TO TWO OR MORE BUYERS. It’s FRAUD!! Be upfront with everybody. Don’t you think so? (See his earlier 10/3/07 entry here).
Also, Azusa Temple’s April ’07 flyer for Parking lot donations had many untruths. Click FSOFPBA’s 8/12/07 posting below:
http://www.click2myanmar.com/C2M/modules/newbbex/viewtopic.php?topic_id=946&forum=6&viewmode=flat&order=ASC&start=10 (old)
Again, they got carried away and said untrue thing. They said donating to monks was more merit worthy than donating to Lord Buddha. See rebuttals below including a funny satire:
(The following links are from the old and later discontinued website)
http://myanmargazette.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?viewmode=thread&topic_id=281&forum=20&post_id=692
http://myanmargazette.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?viewmode=thread&topic_id=281&forum=20&post_id=696
http://myanmargazette.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?viewmode=thread&topic_id=281&forum=20&post_id=702
Lay people have five precepts. One says don’t tell lies. Monks follow Vinaya, a higher code of conduct. Of course, they must not lie.
What’s the purpose of “Than way Zaniya” statues? It’s to remind people to have “Than way ga” (remorse). Then they could consider mending their ways.
In this regard, we can learn much from VENERABLE PENANG SAYADAW. This NOBLE Sayadaw made POWERFUL comments. And they’re “Twaye htwake aung mhan” very very true!
Click below to Ko Kyaw Htin’s translation of Sayadaw’s interview:
http://www.click2myanmar.com/C2M/modules/newbbex/viewtopic.php?topic_id=1034&forum=5&post_id=2567#forumpost2567
Sayadaw says something like this. The Military Junta always finds fault with others. It questions whether monks are real or fake. If people ask the Military government whether it itself is real or fake (legal or not), what will it say?
Yes, the Military Junta cannot claim that it is a real or legal government. It’s not elected by the Myanmar people. It takes COURAGEOUS people like HONORABLE SAYADAW to remind it not to oppress Myanmar people and monks. It’s a classic case of CONCEIT and “Ko myiat chee Ko ma myin” not seeing one’s own blemishes.
Similarly, our Myanmar community here has a RIGHT to remind Azusa people conducting religious work. DON’T REPEAT ERRORS. DON’T MISLEAD THE COMMUNITY & DONORS. See own faults first. Don’t get carried away like the generals. It’s good for the Azusa lugyis also.
No good covering up or shutting other people up. Covering up means nobody will change their wrong ways…. like the generals. Worse, they may be encouraged to be BELLIGERENT & CONCEITED like you know who??? … None other than our “beloved” General “Bulldog” Than Shwe!!! He thinks he owns the whole Myanmar people.
Why be “owned” by somebody else??? We don’t want to be owned by somebody, do we??? Lord Buddha taught people to think for themselves and not accept teachings blindly.
We need COURAGEOUS THINKING LIKE HONORABLE AND NOBLE PENANG SAYADAW. What do you say, my friends?
Myittha
June 21, 2010 at 7:44 pm
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I would like to confirm the news that Azusa Temple’s board members are planning to start giving monthly salary to the monks residing at the Azusa Temple because someone is complaining that received NaWaKarMa (for personal use) money are getting less and less every month from donors.
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June 22, 2010 at 8:42 am
dmoran555
Posted on: 2007/12/24 11:12
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Re: Statues of Than-way-za-ni-ya 4 Htarna at Azusa Monastery
Because of the title, position or the rank, people respect, obey, follow and listen to that person. After the truths are revealed, it is hard to respect, obey or agree things with the same person who we used to respect. It takes time to know each other and it takes time to find out who that person really is and it takes time to find out how things are handled inside and all the decisions are made under the guide lines and within the law or not. These may be why all the strong, good supporters and board members left Azusa Temple little by little after serving for years. Not coming back and visiting the temple is showing that they probably lost their respect and trust too.
One person decision is not good and let that person do what he wants is not a proper way to run an organization. All the monks and board members need to get involved and give suggestion, vote, view it from all different sides to get the best result and solution for Azusa Temple and for the community. Team work is needed for the organization to get the job done correctly and to make the decision correctly.
Here are a few questions:
Which one is more important?
• Getting the support, respect and trust from the community and public is more important {or} Getting the way you want to control the Azusa Temple is more important
• Getting Nawakarma donation is more important {or} Getting donations for Azusa Temple for improvements and for Azusa Temple’s expenses, is more important
• Focusing on Azusa Temple is more important {or} Building the school and helping others back in Burma is more important
• Keep and stay everything under WeNee is more important {or} Breaking the WeNee is more important
• Getting a clean good karma is more important {or} Getting a mix unclean karma and bad karma is more important
• Getting involve in fortune telling, busy with internet, computer, digital camera, video camera and watching TV, video is more important {or} Reading/Teaching and Practicing/Preaching Buddhism is more important
All donations to Azusa Temple should be for Azusa Temple and all the board members must be involved making decisions on how to handle/use the fund appropriately for the Azusa Temple and for the community here in Los Angeles.
These are my thoughts and suggestions. If no one agreed to it, let it be.
Myittha
June 22, 2010 at 8:43 am
shwemeat
Posted on: 2008/1/10 22:02
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Re: Statues of Than-way-za-ni-ya 4 Htarna at Azusa Monastery
Remember Half Moon Bay donation $ 500. See 12/20/07 Kyawhtin1’s posting in Vinaya/WeeNee topic.
http://www.click2myanmar.com/C2M/modules/newbbex/viewtopic.php?topic_id=1067&forum=6&viewmode=flat&order=ASC&start=10 (old)
$ 500 is for Ven U Sila Nanda. He sick. He very old Bamar Sayadaw. Azusa lugyis give 500 from own pockets. I say “Tha Du” to them. Monk give nothing in $ 500. Monk started this but give nothing. No join in or give a little. Strange! I NO say “Tha Du” to him.
Check Sayadaw U Aye thaka “Kamma” audio. He say people to donate for good kamma. He always ask people donate for good deeds. Of course, people understood donate mostly to him. But he himself no donate for good Kamma. No join in or give a little bit. Maybe, join inside this $ 500 or a little over this $ 500, looks nicer or looks fair or more meaning to his project.
I wonder. He no need to have “say tha na” “tha dar”? He no need to do good deeds? Monk no need but just da yar kar need to have good heart? NOT RIGHT. Very selfish. Shame! Shame! Monk need do kind deed also. Monk need good heart also. Not just tell other people to donate. Monk need donate too. I see many good monks donate a lot.
He should PRACTICE FIRST. Then put on “Kamma” AUDIO LATER? No good put on audio first without practice himself first.
Penang Sayadaw and Ma Soe Yein Sayadaw donate to poor suffering monks in Burma borders. They have BIG HEARTS for poor suffering monks and poor people. The good Sayadaws donate temples to Sasana. GREAT DIFFERENCE. They really practice all the time. Need to learn from great Sayadaws.
Myittha
June 22, 2010 at 6:21 pm
Posted on: 2008/3/27 20:38
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Re: Statues of Than-way-za-ni-ya 4 Htarna at Azusa Monastery
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Posted on: 2008/4/17 21:32
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June 22, 2010 at 6:25 pm
dmoran555
Posted on: 2008/9/22 18:01
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Re: Statues of Than-way-za-ni-ya 4 Htarna at Azusa Monastery
The original poster “uayethaka” came back and alter his original message on click2myanmar.com and changed
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The sad thing is the poster name can not be changed and that makes him looks bad and guilty.
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Posted on: 2008/10/7 17:08
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Re: Statues of Than-way-za-ni-ya 4 Htarna at Azusa Monastery
If the pictures are not removed from the link below, we can still view the pictures.
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Myittha
June 23, 2010 at 3:09 am
meatphar
Posted on: 2009/1/1 16:12
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Re: Statues of Than-way-za-ni-ya 4 Htarna at Azusa Monastery
U Ayethaka asserts that monks like him are far nobler than lay people. He compares a monk to a lay person who has clingings and doesn’t fast. See below:
Dec 26 & 27 2008 – Azusa Temple
Sayadaw U Awthada’s birthday
http://member.click2myanmar.com/index.php/public/event/view/id_14/
He also says that monks like him follow 228 monk rules and have overcome clingings.
He forgets to mention that a few monks may still have ENORMOUS clingings to material wealth and may have BROKEN THE VINAYA, quite often with no remorse.
Regarding this Than Way Zaniya statues topic, we have the following questions:
Why did he issue a multiple donation solicitation flyer again for statues already donated in full? Isn’t it fraudulent?
By the way, why didn’t he issue a Sasana dedication announcement for the Dhamma Hall and parking lot? It’s about a year and a half already?
Being evasive and keeping silent persistently (a non-response) is a Vinaya offence. Would or should a “noble” and responsible monk, as he claimed himself to be, continue in this manner?